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training: why dont we share our knowledge with others

Some of the things im gonna say may upset other members and for that im sorry. Im a soldier, former law enforcment officer(civillian) and i got to thinking why dont we share what we have learned with the younger or not trained members of our airsoft community. I have been trained in SWAT tacics, certified to train in short range marksmanship, and several other styles. Why dont we spend more time or offer time and advise to those in the community that are wanting to learn. i dont believe that teaching basic tactics to these individuals is wrong. In fact i think that it would increase game play and make it more exciting for everyone. Its not like these guys are going to take what we train them and try to stage a riot or anything but i believe that it will make the skirmishes more challenging and real feeling. Some of the people that play try to use what they see on video games and turn it in to real life and we all know that does not work all the time. and when it doesn't they become frustrated and quit. there are several members that have vast experence that is just going to waste or only being used in their little circles. why cant we set up a section where members voluteer tips advice and stradegy for others. my fear is that when someone posts something though instead of using it for it potentieal the discussion will turn into slamming the training and saying its not real or does not work just because its not the way you have been trained. I would love to hear people thoughts on this subject

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Permalink Reply by Les Parker on June 13, 2008 at 2:08am: sounds great sounds like there is one good source for training, who else has training they would like to share. I can throw in SWAT tactics, PIER(Patrol Interdiction Emergency Response) CERT (Cell Extraction Responce Team) tactics that works well for CQB and tip and tactic for short range marksmenship, and im sure there are more than just us on this site i would love to hear from other members what kind of training they have so that there is more than just a couple of sources for info for people.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by SS. Shook on June 13, 2008 at 3:09pm: THis is great some one finally standing up for the younger people.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Ripper on June 13, 2008 at 4:26pm: Up until last year, my organization would hold two training events a year. One was aimed squarely at new players and included a couple of hours of basic gear selection and AEG maintenance. We would then take to the field for a day of school circle training and practical application. We would cover basic individual movement and combat skills up to a 4 man fire team level. Our second event was targeted at those players who had been playing already or had taken the first course. It was targeted at fire team up to squad level movement and combat. We got deep into terrain and camoflage use, as well as map and compass usage. When you play on 100 hilly, wooded acres, both are handy skills to have.
I spent 14 years teaching marines and airsofters aren't much harder to work with. The problems we started to run into was that few players want to actually train if there wasn't a 'game' involved. Nevermind that they got plenty of shooting in the reaction drills. Many of the younger players didn't really seem especially interested in spending an afternoon being instructed. Those that did attend , got some really good information passed their way. Ultimately it became too much of a burden to plan training events for less than a dozen players around our regular monthly games for 50-60 players.
Since our organization is mil-sim oriented, we focus more on field craft and patroling than CQB operations.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Ripper on June 13, 2008 at 4:31pm: This is an outline for an abrieviated fieldcraft excercise that we have used a number of times. It is geared for entry level players and keeps the classes short to help hold their attention.
The full day course added a number of specific skills that we more fireteam oriented.

Opening remarks. 5 minutes.

Basic hand and arms signals: 15 min.
1) Instructor demonstration . 10 min.
2) Student practical application. 5 min.

Basic individual movement: 20 min.
1) Walking/movement techniques. 5 min.
2) Basic camoflage usage. 5 min.
3) Cover and concealment. 5 min.
4) Student practical application. 5 min.

Basic fire team movement: 60 min.
1) Fire team formations. 15 min.
2) Crossing danger areas. 15 min.
3) Buddy team/Bounding. 15 min.
4) Student/team practical application. 15 min. ( reloading drills included.)

Defensive preparations: 20 min.
1) Using terrain features. 5 min.
2) Secondary positions. 5 min.
3) Live fire exercise. 10 min.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by David House on June 24, 2008 at 12:40pm: This is an idea that i have tried to apply since i started in paintball in the'80's...as a long time infantryman and soldier i try with each new member to give them the basics of fire and movement as per the US Army Ranger Handbook...and the old reliable FM's.....in fact out here at my place we are dreaming of a "Combat Camp" style group of gatherings..where individuals and groups could come and work on basics in the surrounding land and National forest that is all around our place...nmever thought of simply writing about it...good idea...how do we make it fly???....David; ▶ Reply to This